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Intrinsic Leadership is a thought-provoking podcast hosted by Aaron Robbins, Jimmy Karam, and Dr. Drea Zigarmi, delving into the multifaceted world of leadership. Join this dynamic trio as they explore the essence of leadership, dissect the Leadership in Context model, and navigate through essential topics like self-discovery, leading in diverse contexts, and mastering crucial leadership skills such as active listening, conflict resolution, and goal setting. Whether you're a seasoned leader or aspiring to become one, this podcast offers valuable insights to help you unlock your intrinsic leadership potential.
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Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast - Frank Muller
In this episode of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, host Aaron Robbins is joined by Frank Muller for the second conversation in our new series on nonprofit leadership.
Frank brings more than 40 years of experience across government contracting, technology, and nonprofit leadership. He currently serves as Chairman of the Gold Coast Conference, one of the most influential nonprofit events supporting the defense industrial base, and has held executive leadership roles across both for-profit and nonprofit organizations.
Together, Aaron and Frank explore what it truly means to lead in a nonprofit environment—where authority, incentives, and traditional power structures are limited, but purpose, commitment, and relationships matter more than ever. The conversation dives into:
-Servant leadership in volunteer-driven organizations
-Leading without formal authority or financial incentives
-Motivation, purpose, and mission-driven work
-Navigating uncertainty, setbacks, and high-stakes decisions
-Lessons learned from decades of leadership across sectors
-Building trust, sustaining engagement, and keeping teams aligned during challenging times
Frank also shares behind-the-scenes stories from leading large-scale nonprofit efforts like Gold Coast through sequestration, COVID, and shifting government priorities—highlighting what steady, values-driven leadership looks like when the pressure is on.
If you lead (or aspire to lead) in a nonprofit, volunteer, or mission-driven organization—or if you’re interested in how motivation and leadership really work when you can’t rely on titles or authority—this episode offers practical insight and hard-earned wisdom.
Learn more about Frank’s work and resources mentioned in the episode:
-Gold Coast Conference
-Beyond Ordinary Software Solutions
-Launching GovCon (book by Frank Muller & Jake Anderson)
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